Once we start by telling each other lies, from the begining, that is the end of it.That little lie...that small lie you don't notice -others take deep note of it.You know what!!they keep a distance from you or us.Wrong intentions people are not stupid, they will spot them eventually as you spew your bile.

At times i speak in terms.I have good experience with African community based projects my friend, i know a brother who takes chances from the word go.I have been to groups, organisations, meetings you name them.I have seen it all under the sun.That is why i chose this way of life[African Holistic Approach]initiation through Black Consciousness Movement.I keep using term [African mainstream]they is a reason my friend.

To live a life free from lies is a hard task , daunting task, you must be groomed from African Holistic school of thought, and intiated fully immersed from fire of devotion.Free from material hoarding, greedness, stealing , lies.You are the people that discourage the good African from contributing cause of your lies.If you know yourself repeant from your dirty ways,That little lie which you tell it puts people off completly.You know your self i repeat, i do not need to publish your name my dear black brother.But the lie i spoted in you already, reflects the underlying dangers you posses.

Read your private message in your mail box, and figure out.That lie to me is so big cause i know the potential it carries, it can destroy peoples lives.READ YOUR PRIVATE MESSAGE PLEASE, CHECK THAT SO CALLED LITTLE LIE.That is why people don't trust anything cause of these stupid lies.People can longer see good trust worth Africans cause of your litttle lies.
Fire starts with a spark, your little lies are just as deadly as a fire inferno.That little lie i spoted in you already from experience it speaks volumes.

You only here get what you after from anyone at any cost.Sorry it does not work that way, things must change people are tired.

abcdefg, i think you are moving in circles.
You put an idea we respond, you dont respond to our response,in fact you come up with another idea. Lets move forward, ok, where is 123777?

Siyabonana Mthwakazi.Did you mean 1317795 ?ngikhona mfowethu,yikuthi mina angifundanga awuzwanga udokotela ethi laba abakhuluma nge tribalism zimpumputhe ,pho njengoba thina kithi kuko mnyama ubambile hatshi ngithi kengihlehle kungene amadlozi amakhulu,phela kusinwa kudedelwana !

Udokotela uyazigulela, ongofundanga laye izinto ziyam'affecta.
Akudngimfundo ukuthi ubone ukuba uyabandlulwa, besides imfundo ilamalevels owama ngograde7 naye ufndile in his own right.

Uyagula wena abcdgefg. Kade untela la kulomuzi. Wena nguwe a bigger liar yourself. Why do you send a private message to someone who has lied in public. Kuveze to the benefit of us all. If you can post up here about it you should be able to write about it. I dont buy such cheap stories.

We moving in circles indeed,surely nothing will be born outer this behaviour of ours.
one word, one critic, stops everything, wow!!!

There is no one man who can stop a people who have decided. I really have no problem with the idea of building up projects but your take of it sounds like u want to waste time. WHY DONT YOU SIT DOWN AND FIND OUT WHY PEOPLE ARE NOT JUMPING INTO YOUR IDEA? At least u can ask people here and get their honest answers. Learn one or two things. Dont just stuff us while you are not listening to our concerns.

Mthwethwee i beg 2 differ--its not my idea, rite?
secondly, i know that pipos concerns are realy.
my suggestion was and still is that we atleast have a meeting, once that first step is done then, we can say there was something done.
most rich and famous Nguni/regional folks are very keen to jump onboard, however, this is for us ordinary guys, meaning if its pushed and called by none politicians and very educated then it does serve the purpose.
We all know that there is a cuckoo in zim, but diaspora atleast gives us a room to maneuver,all it needs is a willing/serious pipo.
TRUST and fear are the main enemies NOW.
it is impossible to lay down all plans on the net and its not wise mister. yes you ask HOW? wot if i have a comfirdatonal infor? i for one dont underestimate intilligence of men.

abcde4444 is one willing gentlemen, and he cant do it alone. i, even if i cant be involved in anything but the project goes thru, i `ll be a happy man!!

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Yenza phela labavumelana lawe mfowethu.Thina esingavumelani lawe lathi respect our opinions. Like nobody is saying dont go ahead with your project but dont force people into it. Dont despise us simply because we do not agree with you. We are not cowards but some of us just dont agree wuth the way you want to go about things. Is that ok? Are we still brothers,yes. Have we a right to our own opinions, I think so.

The projects that help us abroad and at home are very important and most people would agree with them 100%. The only problem is doing them in mgabe s land. Most of us have cancelled that land, we are going for nothing less than a fully emancipated Mthwakazi, whether so and so agrees with us or not.

The other thing is "the how" Some say a bank account and put money together. We have never even met face to face and how can I be expected to put money together with you to build a project that is not yet known. Say a school, as some have suggested. Thought about buying land,planning permission, etc and the politics that come into play?

Why dont you meet within your community and discuss such with abantu bakithi owakhelene labo likhangelene mathupha. Organise one another,meet and deliberate. Mina engikhona we already have community gatherings. We meet in June Sep and Dec. Ma kungaba lento ethize lakho siyakhona ukuqoqana in a matter of days, kungasikubambeka kwabantu ngemsebenzi abalayo mihla ngemihla.

Okufihlwayo thina asiselakho, Konke senza egcekeni ngoba asiphoxi muntu, siyaziphilela nje njengazo zonke izizwe. So angazi utshoni ngezi confidential?

Kunjalo nje qhubeka ngokwakha UMthwakazi ngayo yonke indlela owenelisa ngayo. Mhlawumbe masesibona izithelo zemsebenzi yakho uzezwa sesixolisa ukuthi besimpumputhekile ekuqaleni, njalo sesibonga okuhle ongbe sukwenzile, sesizohlanganisa amakhanda lawe.
Phila mfowethu uze ukhokhobe.

Ngikushayela ihlombe Mthwentwe ngeprogress ositshela yona eseliyenzile in yo community, i think thats one idea we must pursue bantu. Uqinisile uMthwentwe asazani thina lah enkundleni, so therefore it makes sense for us to start something with our communities but not forgeting the bigger picture eyokuphakamisa umthwakazi plus transparency and ultimately doing away with betshabiland. Siyabonga Mthwentwe for this idea.

Uthi kubongwa mina yini mnakwethu. Kulamajaha asincede kakhulu kuloludaba. NgoJune sihlangana sivuselela indlela obaba abehlalisane ngayo, bephilisana ngayo, singuMthwakazi kungelankinga, NgoSept sikhumbula okaMatshobana njengenzalo yakhe. NgoDec sihlangana sisidla ikhisimisi siqakathekisa izidlo zakithi. Njengale edluleyo ngingawuthofonxi kanje umxhanxa ngamazinyomhlathi. Uthi abantu bakithi balomusa njani, kambe umuntu esiphekela umxhanxa shuwa, amagwadla avele ngaphi izulu lingasani kanje.
Siyabonga mfo.

i agree with you fethu, my call have been to meet, its impossible and a none viable idea to open an account without pipo knowing who is who. who will put money into account ? my suggestion is for us to come together, i dont know wot project will be born out of it but i have faith that something should be done and can be done.
you right The MZILIKAZI day and x-mas gathering are a progress in which we should capitalize on such invents......my feelings were that you guyz you only interested in suggestions only coming from those 3 events, in which i think its not a Regional solution.
if u read btwn the lines fethu i was only disagreeing with you for DISPUTING anything without a trial.
yes some pipo did say this and that but hey who wouldnt say his mind with zeal?
meetings are there to lay down such disputes....
the other thing is that short tempered pipo spoil everything bcoz they dont have prolonged faith to see unyawo lonwabu progress.
i say again MDI was one project in which it doesnt stand as i know bcoz it wasnt agreed by us lot, therfore anything beneficial to the region is something i long to do no matter wot it is as long as it serve the purpose.